Exercise 0:00 0
“More vigorous intensity exercise, higher-intensity exercise can potentiate or lead to greater improvements in VO2max or eliminate what's known as non-response.”

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Exercise 0:12 0
“So some people engage in training and it's very frustrating because their VO2max doesn't change at all.”

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Exercise 0:33 0
“Now some of that non-response was eliminated in a group that was doing the same total amount of exercise but engaging in a more vigorous manner.”

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Exercise 5:27 0
“So in short, I think you can do more vigorous or high-intensity exercise for shorter periods of time and at least see similar improvements in VO2max.”

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Exercise 7:25 0
“It's determined by many physiological factors and processes, but it reflects the peak integrated capacity of the cardiovascular, the respiratory, the blood, the skeletal muscle system to take up and utilize oxygen.”

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Disease prevention 8:17 0
“Epidemiological studies show having a higher cardiorespiratory fitness is associated with a reduction in all-cause mortality, dying from all causes, as well as developing many different chronic diseases, cardiovascular disease, type 2 diabetes.”

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Exercise 10:07 0
“So if you're a serious or an elite or very high-level endurance athlete, you're engaged in 15, 20 sessions of training per week. You're training 25, 30 hours a week of training.”

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Exercise 11:12 0
“And I think there that ratio can change fairly substantially. And you can incorporate...I would submit that engaging in more vigorous intensity type exercise if you're only doing one, two, three hours a week may potentiate or give you a further boost in fitness.”

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Exercise 14:30 0
“But you do, going hard, you mentioned intensity, high intensity interval training, 80% max heart rate.”

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Exercise 15:07 0
“220 minus your age is still probably the most common. There's a number of other formulas that have been proposed and looked at scientifically.”

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Exercise 16:56 0
“So bottom line is measuring it directly on yourself is always going to be better.”

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Exercise 18:22 0
“World Fitness Calculator is, it's a valid calculator for estimating VO2 max.”

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Exercise 21:08 0
“But where you basically are performing a couple of levels of submaximal exercise, measuring your heart rate, and then essentially plug it into an equation that's going to extrapolate and said, okay, well, if this is your rate of increase in heart rate, once you get up to your maximum, this is what your VO2 max value would be.”

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Exercise 22:18 0
“The gold standard is having a VO2 max done in an accredited laboratory. And that's going to give you your VO2 max value directly. And it's also going to give you a lot of data on your power outputs, your heart rate, even your lactate, in order to try and look at training zones, for example.”

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Exercise 23:03 0
“What determines VO2 max? And as I alluded to earlier, it's many physiological things, but the primary...there'd be general consensus, scientific consensus, that the primary factor that separates individuals in terms of their VO2 max is their cardiac output.”

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Exercise 28:44 0
“high intensity interval training was a very potent stimulus for mitochondrial biogenesis or the generation of new mitochondria.”

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Exercise 29:43 0
“You can increase mitochondrial content very, very rapidly, certainly within a few days or weeks of training.”

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Exercise 31:09 0
“an acute bout of exercise causes increase in those signaling compounds. And as I mentioned, within a few days, or weeks, you can see measurable increases in mitochondria measured with microscopy or Western blotting.”

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Exercise 32:02 0
“higher intensity, more vigorous exercise when the total dose is matched, can lead to at least a more rapid or larger increase in mitochondrial content, again, at least over the short term.”

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Nutrition 33:15 0
“The primary ones, of course, carbohydrate and fat. So whatever you feed it, feed the mitochondria, as long as it has the capacity, has a sufficient capacity for that, it will burn either of those fuels.”

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Exercise 35:29 0
“the exercise, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you're not going to be able to burn more fat after, because it does, as you just mentioned, increase mitochondrial biogenesis.”

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Exercise 35:43 0
“So to me, what's important is the increase in mitochondrial content, the overall increase in mitochondria.”

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Exercise 36:59 0
“So the catecholamines, norepinephrine, epinephrine, they're involved. And so norepinephrine is an important hormone that will signal adipose tissue to start to break down triglyceride and release those fatty acids into the bloodstream.”

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Exercise 39:30 0
“exercise is good for the routine maintenance or turnover of many of these cellular processes, including mitochondria.”

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Exercise 42:45 0
“one of the most intensive types of short, hard exercise that you can do, and having people do repeated Wingate tests.”

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Exercise 43:23 0
“HIIT affects capillary density.”

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Exercise 44:01 0
“exercise is therapeutic in the treatment of high blood sugar or diabetes, you know, there's lots of reasons, but one of the reasons is you increase glucose transport capacity on the cell membrane.”

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Exercise 45:16 0
“high-intensity exercise can cause changes in these GLUT4 transporters.”

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Exercise 46:37 0
“exercise increases insulin sensitivity.”

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Exercise 48:20 0
“we define an exercise snack as less than or equal to one minute of vigorous intensity exercise.”

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Exercise 50:41 0
“So you could think of VILPA in some ways as the non-exercise equivalent of an exercise snack.”

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Exercise 52:33 0
“And so what that allowed the investigators to do was look at over 25,000 individuals who engaged in VILPA-like efforts, they wore accelerometers to try and capture this, and they were followed over almost seven years and the outcomes included all-cause mortality, cardiovascular disease mortality, cancer mortality.”

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Exercise 55:11 0
“So again, lots of work to follow up on, what actually counts as a VILPA bout, will people do this? But you can imagine, again, getting back to this idea of prompts, building in VILPA-like activities in a smartwatch or an app on a phone and encouraging you to accumulate three or four or five or 10 minutes of VILPA a day.”

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Exercise 57:12 0
“All of us should be meeting physical activity guidelines, of course, add these in, sprinkle them in, but there may be a double benefit to a VILPA-like approach or an exercise snack approach in that it simultaneously breaks up prolonged periods of sedentary behavior.”

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Exercise 57:40 0
“We like to think of exercise as this panacea, and it's not, it's not a vaccine against ill health outcomes, and reducing sedentary behavior is really important as well, as is proper sleep.”

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Sleep 57:54 0
“reducing sedentary behavior is really important as well, as is proper sleep.”

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Exercise 1:03:22 0
“strength training is important in order to maintain the viability of these fast twitch muscle fibers.”

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Exercise 1:03:45 0
“maintaining fast twitch muscle fibers through strength training is gonna be important in order to help prevent falls and other risks.”

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Metabolic health 1:04:02 0
“With respect to the metabolism aspect of high intensity interval training, we talked about the insulin sensitivity, the glucose transport increasing.”

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Exercise 1:05:30 0
“we control body mass mainly through nutrition, but we control fitness through exercise and physical activity.”

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Exercise 1:05:37 0
“high intensity exercise can play a role, a supportive role in terms of weight management, body composition changes.”

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Exercise 1:05:49 0
“you can have measurable changes in body composition such that there's a slight loss of fat mass, fat percentage, or a slight increase in lean mass with high intensity interval training.”

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Exercise 1:06:18 0
“you can do less total exercise or certainly have a lower time commitment with more vigorous intensity exercise and burn the same number of calories.”

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Exercise 1:07:44 0
“exercise in general has global effects on the brain.”

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Exercise 1:08:30 0
“high-intensity interval training or any type of high-intensity training has a special role.”

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Exercise 1:12:01 0
“And so looking at the studies on lactate and, you know, even infusing lactate into humans, it increases BDNF, just infusing it.”

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Exercise 1:12:25 0
“I'm doing like a 10-minute, you know, Tabata. So I'm doing two back-to-back Tabatas, actually.”

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Exercise 1:12:56 0
“And there's actually science showing that executive function is improved, and it totally correlates, and this is in humans, with lactate after high-intensity exercise.”

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Exercise 1:14:23 0
“I think it's an emerging field looking at the effects of shear force.”

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Metabolic health 1:19:20 0
“I'm sure and I know people are working on this, you know, technically, getting to the point where an athlete would use a continuous lactate monitor for training and racing.”

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Metabolic health 1:20:35 0
“But I wouldn't have known that without that continuous, you know, data. And I wonder with the lactate because during exercise, the brain consumes it more than glucose.”

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Metabolic health 1:23:01 0
“A major adaptation there is an increase in monocarboxylate transporters, MCT transporters, to help get the lactate out of the muscle.”

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Exercise 1:25:24 0
“And so those...when we talk about anaerobic capacity, the best measure, or the most commonly accepted measure of anaerobic capacity is a Wingate test.”

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Exercise 1:26:03 0
“Well, you can do a 30-second Wingate and achieve 900, 1,000 watts. Elite athletes, elite power athletes, 1,500 watts on the bike.”

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Exercise 1:27:12 0
“So if you had to flee a burning building, the pace you might run at to save your child from an oncoming car, it's well above VO2 max.”

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Exercise 1:30:21 0
“And there's a series of studies that's come out, Rønnestad, Carsten Lundby's work showing that when truly world-class level cyclists, we throw these terms around, highly trained, elite, these are cyclists with starting VO2 max values, 72, 73 mls per kilogram per minute.”

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Exercise 1:32:30 0
“But also maybe potentially get even greater improvements in VO2max.”

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Exercise 1:32:45 0
“I actually think, you know, maybe you should do some longer intervals at a little bit lower intensity.”

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Exercise 1:34:07 0
“We know there's data that suggests that all things being equal, three to five-minute repeats at the highest sustainable intensity are probably the best way to maximize gains in VO2max.”

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Exercise 1:35:32 0
“Metabolically, the challenge is different.”

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Exercise 1:40:09 0
“So all that to say, we came up with a protocol that was three 20-second intervals, five-minute total warm-up and cool-down, and some recovery in between the intervals. So start to finish, the protocol took 10 minutes. And within that, there was one minute of very vigorous exercise.”

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Exercise 1:42:08 0
“You mentioned some of the other protocols like the REHIT. How does that, you know, how would you say that really differs from high-intensity normal training?”

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Exercise 1:44:01 0
“So the reduced exertion, it was 10 or 20 seconds. It feels a lot easier than a 30-second Wingate and it was because, you know, these investigators know 30-second Wingates hurt and all of the lactic acid and the pain and the discomfort and even the nausea and dizziness sometimes that can go wrong with 30 seconds.”

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Exercise 1:05:16 0
“And you know, there's a lot of critics certainly on the behavioral side of things who are saying interval training is doomed to failure as a public health priority because we know that anything above lactate threshold, it hurts. It makes people uncomfortable. They're less likely to do it.”

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Exercise 1:06:24 0
“So the reduced exertion interval training, the REHIT, reduced exertion high intensity training is you still... They're messing around with more of the work to rest ratios and you are still going, you're still going very hard, but your perceived exertion isn't as high as it would be if you were doing a wingate or sprint interval training.”

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Exercise 1:08:48 0
“We've done a study looking at that 10 by one protocol. So these are 10 one minute efforts at objectively measured maximal heart rates of 85 to 90% of maximum in older individuals, 63 years on average, obese with type two diabetes.”

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Exercise 1:51:49 0
“You know, excellent data and these are, you know, relatively small but well-controlled randomized controlled trials looking at interval walking versus continuous steady state walking, including in individuals with type 2 diabetes, three, four-month interventions where individuals were randomly assigned to an interval walking group, continuous walking or a control group, the interval and continuous walkers matched for total exercise volume, total exercise intensity.”

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Exercise 1:52:34 0
“After four months, the interval walkers, greater improvement in cardiospiratory fitness, greater reduction in or greater change in body composition, greater loss of fat, and most importantly in individuals with type 2 diabetes, greater reduction in 24-hour blood sugar measured using continuous glucose monitoring.”

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Exercise 1:55:18 0
“So for example, high-intensity interval training, my read is, is much more ingrained in Europe and certainly in Scandinavian countries. It's, you know, much of the pioneering work around high-intensity interval training in cardiovascular disease was done in Norway in the work of Ulrich Wissloff, and that goes back to the calculator that we talked about earlier.”

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Exercise 1:58:48 0
“What we found was a lot of yellow lights. Maybe, you know, this person might be contraindicated or there's a change here that might elevate risk. And so of course we defer to safety.”

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Exercise 1:59:50 0
“I think also mentioning the walkers, the interval walkers versus continuous walkers was really good because, you know, it also kind of highlights the fact that you don't have to go to your 80% max heart rate for interval training.”

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Exercise 2:03:25 0
“You know, for a lot of resistance training, just because the intensities are so high, you know, we're talking about now very high force efforts that last less than a second sometimes. By its definition, it's interval training.”

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Exercise 1:25:45 0
“And so if you're already relatively fit and healthy, then the general belief is that you're not going to see massive changes in muscle protein synthesis or changes in fiber size or anything like that, even with fairly intensive sprinting.”

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Exercise 1:26:00 0
“Now if you're someone just starting out, you think of a very deconditioned elderly individual who is going to get on the bike and do some moderate pushes there, they could see some improvements in protein synthesis.”

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Exercise 1:28:36 0
“You know, if you only have three, I'm not sure how I would divvy those up, but still getting some variation in ideally, but yeah, I have a lot of time for high-intensity functional training.”

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Exercise 1:29:15 0
“So, you know, I think where the evidence is, and if you look at the latest systematic reviews and meta-analyses, what they're going to say is, maybe there's a slight interference effect, maybe it's there to a greater extent with high-intensity interval training.”

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Exercise 2:12:30 0
“If anything, it's just increased the number a little bit, and the latest guidelines, the U.S. guidelines for Americans, the WHO, World Health Organization guidelines, are consistent, and they're exactly what you just said, 150 to 300 minutes of moderate, or half, if you're doing it vigorous.”

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Exercise 2:12:46 0
“moderate is defined in an absolute sense of about, not about, it's 3 to 5.9 METs, 3 to 5.9 metabolic equivalents, or 5 to 6 on a 10-point rating scale, and what that means subjectively is you can talk, but you can't sing.”

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Exercise 2:13:14 0
“Vigorous effort is above 6 METs, 7 or 8 on a 10-point scale, and you could only say a couple of words. So you couldn't carry on a conversation, say a couple of words, short phrases.”

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Exercise 2:13:53 0
“And those are for what are deemed substantial health benefits. It's not saying that's the best way to increase your VO2 max, it's saying there's really good data from a wide variety of sources that if you engage in this level of weekly physical activity you can expect substantial health benefits, brain, muscle, you know, lots of things.”

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Exercise 1:39:51 0
“One being, postmenopausal women, is HIIT good or bad for postmenopausal women? On the bad side, some women are worried about raising cortisol too high.”

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Exercise 1:40:10 0
“So specifically on the cortisol level, and again, I think the latest systematic reviews, meta-analyses, the studies vary a little bit, but by and large, I don't think individuals need to worry about chronic increases in cortisol levels systemically that are gonna cause them damage.”

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Exercise 1:40:38 0
“But I think there's some evidence now that would suggest that actually, in individuals that practice interval training, basal cortisol levels actually stay lower than prior to baseline.”

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Nutrition 2:25:14 0
“And I think the reality of it is that 20 to 30% of menstruating women are, during their menstruation are iron deficient, and they just don't even know about it.”

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Exercise 1:46:34 0
“I think that's where it depends, right? And so we know that more higher impact events or activities, certainly when we're young, tend to, you know, lay down more bone.”

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Exercise 1:47:13 0
“I can engage in very vigorous interval training on the bike. I can't, and I don't run anymore.”

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Exercise 1:48:17 0
“Cycling is a fantastic exercise for individuals with osteoarthritis, because you can still engage in fairly vigorous activity without hurting or damaging, you know, specifically your knees in this case.”

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Exercise 1:50:17 0
“There's definitely evidence that individuals who over a lifetime engage in very high intensity, very high volume exercise may be at greater risk for some of these issues that you just referred to, heart issues.”

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Exercise 2:34:00 0
“idea of blood flow restricted training, allowing individuals getting back to joint issues, maybe working at a lower absolute force or workload, but still seeing the metabolic stresses induced with blood flow restricted training, you know, there's some interesting work there, I think.”

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Exercise 2:34:19 0
“Where do you see the future of, well, specifically high intensity interval training research and, you know, like the training methodologies, where's it going, like how we can find really, you know, how we can define good studies to optimize for VO2 max, to optimize for like mitochondrial biogenesis and these important measures of longevity and health and performance for the athletes too.”

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Exercise 2:35:40 0
“So I think that's a massive area that needs to get looked at. Number two is, you know, clearly I'm a proponent for interval training, but I fully recognize that we haven't done, or just they're not out there, these large scale randomized clinical trials, making very good comparisons between traditional endurance exercise and interval type training, with proper what we call non-inferiority designs, which is like, what's the margin of, if there was a difference, it doesn't matter, right?”

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