Understanding the Complex Relationship Between Nutrition and Metabolic Health

Nutrition 0:14 0
“Dr. Robert Lustig is an endocrinologist that is he's a specialist in the function of hormones in the body and a professor of Pediatric Endocrinology at the University of California San Francisco he has authored more than 100 peer-reviewed studies exploring how different types of nutrients that is food impact our cellular functioning our organ functioning and thereby our health.”

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Body weight 0:38 0
“during today's discussion we discussed the idea of whether or not a calorie is indeed a calorie and whether or not our body weight and body composition only reflects the number of calories we eat versus the calories that we burn.”

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Nutrition 0:51 0
“we talk about how different food types that is how the different macronutrients protein, fat and carbohydrates are processed in the body and the important role that fiber and the gut microbiome plays in that process.”

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Nutrition 1:04 0
“and we pay particular attention to the topic of how different types of sugars and fructose in particular can indeed be addictive to the brain and can modify the way that hormones in the body in particular insulin impact our Liver Health Kidney Health and indeed the health of all of our cells and organs.”

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Nutrition 5:32 0
“I love coffee I'm somebody that drinks coffee nearly every day usually about 90 to 120 minutes after I wake up in the morning although not always sometimes if I'm going to exercise I'll drink coffee first thing in the morning but I love love love coffee.”

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Nutrition 8:32 0
“everyone thinks that obesity is about energy balance that is calories in calories out therefore two behaviors gluttony and sloth therefore if you're fat it's your fault therefore diet and exercise therefore any calorie can be part of a balanced diet therefore don't pick on our calories go pick on somebody else's calories.”

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Nutrition 9:51 0
“you eat 160 calories in almonds how many of those do you absorb? 130. You eat 160 you absorb 130 where' the other 30 go? In the processing of that food energy.”

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Nutrition 12:17 0
“so we all eat protein let's say you eat too much protein yeah you know the Porter House steak all right now if you're a bodybuilder those amino acids might go to muscle and you might increase your muscle mass because you're a bodybuilder because you're putting uh excess uh force on those muscles and you're growing those muscles okay but let's say you're not a bodybuilder let's say you're a mmortal like me or let's say you're a kid going through puberty who's synthesizing a lot of muscle not because they're lifting weights because they're because testosterone's making it happen yeah absolutely but let's say you're not let's say you know you're just you know just schlump the the street like uh you know joeo okay and you eat that Porter House you've taken on all these amino acids there's no place to store it other than muscle so your liver takes the excess and deamidates that amino acid takes the amino group off to turn it from a amino acid into an organic acid and then that organic acid can then enter the kreb cycle the tricarboxylic acid cycle what goes on in the mitochondria in order to…”

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Nutrition 17:19 0
“so over here we have omega-3s heart healthy anti-inflammatory anti-alzheimer's save your life and over here we have trans fats the devil incarnate consumable poison because you can't break the trans double bond you don't have the desaturates to break that trans double bond so it basically accumulates lines your arteries lines your liver causes chronic metabolic disease causes insulin resistance Omega-3s don't even get broken down for energy because they're so important they stay intact because your brain needs them your heart needs them whereas trans fats can't be broken down because of that trans double bond one save your life other one kill you they're both nine calories per gram if you explode them in a bomb calorimeter because a calorie burned is a calorie burned but a calorie eaten is not a calorie eaten because one will save your life one will kill you”

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Nutrition 18:34 0
“carbohydrates I think most of our audience will be familiar with the so-called macronutrients so we talked about fat in this case almonds there's some Fiber in there probably a little bit of carbohydrate a little bit little bit talked about the Porter House with butter right making me hungry already that's protein and fat MH very little of any carbohydrate it should be zero essentially maybe one zero zero yep um and then now we're talking about carbohydrates and we're going to subdivide that into glucose and fructose right galactose basically becomes glucose in the liver so we we can dispense with that unless you have a disease called galactosemia which is about one in 20,000 um and causes neonatal menitis and you know it's a disease as a pediatric endocrinologist I would take care of but we can dispense with that for the moment all right so glucose fructose glucose is the energy of life every cell on the planet Burns glucose for energy glucose is so damn important that if you don't consume it your body makes it so it will take an amino acid and turn it into glucose that's gluconeogenesis glucogenesis that's right it will…”

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Nutrition 25:03 0
“Berry it comes with a whole lot of fiber, in the banana comes with a whole lot less fiber, and in the Coca-Cola it doesn't come with any fiber, and the fiber is what mitigates the absorption.”

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Gut health 25:17 0
“When you consume the fructose with fiber, like your blueberries, you're feeding your microbiome. That fructose wasn't for you, got it, such a relief.”

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Metabolic health 26:43 0
“Fructose inhibits three separate enzymes necessary for normal mitochondrial function. Your mitochondria have to work at peak efficiency, that's what metabolic health is.”

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Metabolic health 31:45 0
“if you have obesity it's a 15-year longevity tax and if you have metabolic syndrome it's a 20-year longevity tax”

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Nutrition 31:53 0
“that is primarily not completely but primarily sugar it's also you know Omega sixes it's also so trans fats”

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Nutrition 32:36 0
“margarine was the bad guy without question”

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Nutrition 33:12 0
“you can make trans fats in your own kitchen by taking olive oil and heating it to beyond the smoking point”

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Nutrition 33:23 0
“sugar is the big problem because of these three enzymes that you are inhibiting”

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Metabolic health 38:11 0
“65% of that which is ingested goes to resting energy expenditure just to power the body, 10% goes to the thermic effect of food, and then 25% goes to activity.”

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Metabolic health 38:59 0
“The higher your glucose goes the more your pancreas will release insulin in order to bring that glucose down.”

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Metabolic health 40:25 0
“Insulin is not the diabetes hormone, insulin is the energy storage hormone.”

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Metabolic health 42:02 0
“If you're active, then you will clear glucose into muscle. Therefore, your blood glucose won't rise as much because it went into muscle and therefore your pancreas will put out less insulin because it doesn't have to clear as much from the bloodstream.”

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Metabolic health 44:36 0
“insulin's actually making the kidney disease and so these animals that are insulin resistant they have diabetic nephropathy without diabetes so the insulin is having a negative clearly negative effect on the kidneys without binding to the receptor.”

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Metabolic health 45:08 0
“the point is insulin does stuff by itself and it turns out insulin drives growth.”

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Metabolic health 48:09 0
“oxygen is necessary for mitochondria to be able to burn in the absence of oxygen the cell only knows how to grow.”

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Metabolic health 50:26 0
“has there been any effort to treat tumors by oxygenating tumors yes and what does that look like it's hyperbaric oxygen therapy it's a thing.”

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Metabolic health 51:28 0
“if I eat 250 calories of glucose how much of that did I quote unquote actually eat how much is is used how much is used yeah let's assume that I'm I'm at my desk working or I'm walking around a little bit I'm not I'm not exercising hard in the in the subsequent hour”

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Metabolic health 52:03 0
“the glucose has to be phosphorated so you're going to lose an ATP in the process so you're going to go ATP goes to ADP and then that ADP will go to a denzine monophosphate which will then go to im an ocol monophosphate which will then go to Uric acid”

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Metabolic health 52:29 0
“uric acid can inhibit mitochondrial function and it can also inhibit endothelial nitric oxide synthese which is the enzyme in your vasculature that is your endogenous blood pressure lowerer”

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Nutrition 57:26 0
“fructose wants to be fat, fructose is the lipogenic substrate here we're not talking about body fat we're talking about fat molecules that can potentially be used as energy that's right triglyceride molecules.”

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Nutrition 57:40 0
“10% of that fructose will be turned into triglyceride right in the intestine and be released into the bloodstream and it is the reason for a post prandial triglyceride response.”

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Nutrition 1:00:00 0
“fructose nitrates tight Junction proteins causing them to be transiently permeable allowing some of the junk in your intestine to get through into your bloodstream.”

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Nutrition 1:01:58 0
“fiber to build up this muin layer is one way to reinforce the the uh the fence that that is the tight junctions Etc exct um between your intestine and the bloodstream.”

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Gut health 1:03:52 0
“you have the probiotic which is the bacteria itself and you the postbiotic which is what the bacteria make in order to heal you okay and so short chain fatty acids are postbiotics”

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Nutrition 1:04:16 0
“if I consume fructose in the form of let's say a highly processed food has minimal antioxidants but it's got plenty of calories typically uh and it's disrupting the tight junctions making my gut leaky”

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Nutrition 1:05:07 0
“Andrew I am for dessert for dessert I am not for dessert for breakfast lunch snacks and dinner”

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Nutrition 1:05:41 0
“the National School breakfast program which 29% of school children today consume is a bowl of Froot Loops and a glass of orange juice that is 41 gam of sugar”

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Hydration 1:10:45 0
“every cell in your body but especially your nerve cells, your neurons, relies on electrolytes in order to function properly so when you're well hydrated and you have the appropriate amount of electrolytes, your system, your mental functioning and your physical functioning is improved.”

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Nutrition 1:11:50 0
“we talked about dessert for breakfast in the form of cereals some of which are um disguised or couched as healthier, you know I think of like Honey Nut Cheerios it seems healthier than Froot Loops it looks healthier like the just by way of color it looks kind of weedy you know color.”

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Nutrition 1:13:33 0
“the grocery store bread had sugar added to it on purpose because when you bake it the sugar does not evaporate it stays in the bread and the sugar is hygroscopic meaning it holds on to water.”

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Nutrition 1:17:05 0
“High fructose corn syrup is particularly egregious because it's so missable because it's already a liquid.”

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Metabolic health 1:19:23 0
“High fructose corn syrup... is causing metabolic illness disrupting mitochondria and on and on.”

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Nutrition 1:23:52 0
“I consider myself pretty informed about nutrition and health but already today I've learned two dozen facts about processing of fructose and calories generally that I had no knowledge of prior.”

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Nutrition 1:24:11 0
“Food science is what happens to food between the ground and the mouth, nutrition is what happens to food between the mouth and the cell, metabolic health is what happens to food inside the cell.”

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Metabolic health 1:24:30 0
“All of the chronic diseases that we are suffering from, like type two diabetes, hypertension, dyslipidemia, cardiovascular disease, cancer, dementia, fatty liver disease, polycystic ovarian disease, those eight diseases which make up 75% of healthcare expenditures in this country today are all inside the cell because they are all mitochondrial dysfunction.”

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Body weight 1:29:44 0
“Stanford University has to pay $2,750 per year in obesity related health care expenses that they have passed on to you even though you're not obese.”

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Metabolic health 1:30:46 0
“Diabetes is now 11.4% of America. 20 years ago it was about 8%.”

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Nutrition 1:31:18 0
“Sugar and these hidden sugars in exactly that's right.”

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Nutrition 1:32:23 0
“High fructose corn syrup and sucrose are no different metabolically.”

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Nutrition 1:33:33 0
“Sugar inhibits burning it inhibits those three enzymes involved in mitochondrial function.”

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Nutrition 1:36:08 0
“inevitably every one of those people is blown away by the fact that it works and assumes that it's all because of reduced calorie intake overall and they lose like anywhere from 30 to 55 lbs and keep it off and they like hey this is great actually still eat ribeye steaks and salads and but they're not eating croutons they're and so in some sense it looks extreme it sounds ketogenic but it's nothing like that you're just saying basically stay away from you're eliminating processed foods you're eliminating liquid calories in in general you and on and on so there's nothing sophisticated about it”

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Nutrition 1:37:08 0
“it's nothing to do with the calories it has everything to do with the insulin if you get the insulin down you're not shunting energy to Fat you can lose weight your fat will give up the ad the uh the the triglyceride stored in it as soon as your insulin goes down insulin is pushing on your fat cell all the time and as long as your insulin's up your fat cell can't release it the minute your insulin goes down you can now engage in what we call lipolysis hormone sensitive lipase is a an enzyme in the fat cell that is uh inhibited by insulin as soon as the insulin's gone hormone sensitive lipase can turn that stored triglyceride into free fatty acids and glycerol and release it and you can lose weight so get the insulin down and it all works”

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Nutrition 1:38:10 0
“what makes insulin go up well two things refine carbohydrate and sugar those are the two things that make insulin go up in addition Branch chain amino acids make insulin go up as well Lucine isoline veine which is in cornfed beef chicken and fish processed food”

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Nutrition 1:39:24 0
“my colleague Dr Carlos Montero who is a professor of Public Health at the University of sa Paulo has done the world a great service he has developed a system for categorization of food processing it is called the Nova System just means new but he has basically categorized every food anywhere in the world into one of four classes”

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Metabolic health 1:42:32 0
“Co and what it is is it's a recommendation engine based on the science of human metabolism that categorizes Foods based on not their nutrient content but on their metabolic effect.”

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Nutrition 1:43:24 0
“I'm not low carb I'm low insulin and there are a lot of ways to get to low insulin get rid of the refined carbohydrate get rid of the sugar increase the fiber get rid of the branch chain amino acids.”

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Nutrition 1:43:37 0
“eating fish is a good place to be um even eating a steak is okay if it's a pasture-fed steak.”

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Metabolic health 1:44:43 0
“marbling is intramyocellular lipid that animal has metabolic syndrome the American cornfed animal because that corn is filled with Branch chain amino acids.”

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Nutrition 1:46:03 0
“the whole egg near perfect protein score in terms of its bioavailability um eggs are terrific.”

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Nutrition 1:46:48 0
“marine life is number one okay um you know fish provided you're not bringing in heavy metals with it.”

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Substances 1:49:35 0
“Vitamin D deficiency is associated with all these chronic metabolic diseases however supplementation with vitamin D has not fixed any of those.”

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Substances 1:50:33 0
“Vitamin D is a pre-pro hormone it's not active at all vitamin D is converted in the liver first step to a compound called 25 hydroxy vitamin D that is a pro hormone it also is inactive it has no activity whatsoever from there 25 hydroxy vitamin D can be metabolized one of two ways it can either be one alpha hydroxylated in the kidney to the active form one alpha one uh 25 dihydroxy vitamin D which will then do all of the business of vitamin D such as calcium absorption from the gut suppression of the immune system at the toll like receptor 4.”

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Substances 1:52:40 0
“Reducing fructose intake the one of the primary ways to reduce systemic inflammation.”

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Sleep 1:53:43 0
“Improving sleep is there any evidence that you know chronic slight sleep deprivation can increase inflammation well what it will do is it'll increase cortisol and chronically increased cortisol will definitely lead to increased inflammation.”

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Stress management 1:55:17 0
“those require cortisol in order to manage and mitigate that stress the upcoming 2024 election that's chronic stress that is not acute stress”

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Mental health 1:56:02 0
“how that chronic stress ultimately leads to metabolic and mental health disaster”

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Body weight 1:56:13 0
“when I was growing up there were some kids in school that were overweight but it was the occasional kid right now it seems depending on where one draws the threshold for overweight it seems that there are a lot of kids that are overweight um how about 25% obese and 40% overweight”

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Environment 1:57:00 0
“Colorado was this um was this like like Beacon of of of fit people but now it's no longer and that's too oh okay cool I'll tell you why there there are four things that can increase mitochondrial uh uh uh biogenesis you going to tell me altitude is one cold yeah that's why Colorado is less obese altitude that's why Colorado is less obese”

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Disease prevention 1:23:40 0
“for primary prevention the mean increase in lifespan for being on a Statin is four days.”

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Disease prevention 1:24:07 0
“for secondary prevention that's where Statin shine.”

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Nutrition 1:24:19 0
“you need a lowfat diet and a priest.”

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Nutrition 1:25:52 0
“the best way to reduce small dense LDL is to reduce insulin by reducing sugar.”

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Disease prevention 2:08:19 0
“the effective campaign to end smoking in young people was to hijack their inherent rebelliousness of Youth and then they were like no we're not going to stick it to them like you know the the as my friend calls it like the two the two-finger business card like No And so that worked that worked”

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Disease prevention 2:10:03 0
“we've been able to actually look gestational diabetes way down, obesity down slightly not a lot but a little bit, cardiovascular disease down”

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Disease prevention 2:12:04 0
“how did we solve those four no one could imagine that we would ever solve smoking right but we did sort of I mean we brought consumption down by half, that's pretty good when you think about it for an addictive substance how many fewer people are dying of lung cancer nowadays in the US um it's like 80% lower”

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Nutrition 1:35:26 0
“they say hey we'll do it for you we'll provide every kid in America with a nutritious meal Every Single Day hot lunch well they didn't say hot okay they just said lunch okay nutritious they said nutritious and I put that in air quotes too because it wasn't nutritious”

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Nutrition 2:17:54 0
“our kids are suffering under the weight the burden of this chronic disaster of ultra processed food which is not food and no wonder they're all obese and uh um uh sick and um uh you know doing so poorly in school and by the way also depressed”

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Mental health 2:18:18 0
“Ultra processed food has now been shown in three separate studies to correlate with depression in teenagers”

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Metabolic health 2:22:29 0
“how many pounds or kilos of big belly fat do you have to gain before you get metabolic leil I don't know but I'm guessing it's less than 22 pounds it's way less oh for once I got an answer right today that's right about five about five pounds”

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Stress management 2:23:18 0
“the question is what made the visceral fat in the first place was it calories no it's cortisol it's stress it's the combination of the sympathetic nervous system and cortisol”

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Nutrition 2:24:07 0
“so when you have fat in your liver it causes metabolic dysfunction right away and the question is where did that fat come from that came from alcohol or sugar”

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Nutrition 2:28:21 0
“very famous study done in Copenhagen 100 normal individuals 25 in four different groups one group one liter of sugared soda per day for six months... gained 10 kilos... one group one liter of water per day for 6 months... lost two kilos... one liter of milk per day... no change... one liter of diet soda per day... gained two kilos.”

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Nutrition 2:31:12 0
“the insulin response you put something sweet on the tongue message goes tongue to brain Sugar's coming message goes brain to pancreas through the vus nerve Sugar's coming release the insulin and so tongue doesn't know if it's sugar or not it releases the ins the pancreas releases the insulin which drives energy into fat whether it was you know from the diet sweetener or not.”

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Metabolic health 2:34:20 0
“the company recognized that they wanted to be a metabolically healthy company and they knew they weren't they contacted me and said would you put together a scientific advisory team to advise us what we need to do to change the food in order to be a metabolically healthy company and we want to lead”

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Nutrition 2:37:01 0
“three principles if you adhere to these three principles you can turn any food healthy including Ultra processed food number one protect the liver number two feed the gut number three support the brain”

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Nutrition 2:38:14 0
“number one got to get rid of the sugar number two got to add fiber number three got to add Omega-3s number four got to do something about the emulsifiers”

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Nutrition 2:43:02 0
“so the question is what's addictive is fat addictive no because if fat was addictive then all the people on the Atkins diet or on the ketogenic diet would be gaining weight not losing it”

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Substances 2:44:18 0
“caffeine's a problem really caffeine's classic addictive substance at every level”

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Nutrition 2:46:19 0
“glp1 decreases the rate of gastric emptying that is its primary driver yes it does affect the brain I'm not arguing that it does but the primary effect is to reduce the rate of gastric emptying so you stay Fuller longer because the food doesn't move through the stomach”

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Body weight 2:47:44 0
“comes in who's obese or slightly overweight right it's like I don't know what to do I'm trying to eat better exercise or a person comes in and says hey i' I've had a really hard time getting that last 20 9 PBS off for so many years will you prescribing those zic so the short answer is number one I'm retired so I'm not prescribing anything but let's let's let's go with there the data show that gp1 analoges like um semaglutide and now tepati which is uh Lily's version uh Manjaro is the diabetes version Z bound is the Obesity version the same way that OIC is the diabetes version for um uh novonordisk and woi is the Obesity version so they're all glp1 they're all G gp1 analog they synthesized in a lab it looks like glp1 smells like glp1 acts like G1 when injected tepati the uh Lily one actually has a dual function it uh binds to the Gip receptor so it might have double duty and the data show that it's actually even slightly more effective at Weight Loss than the Nova Nordisk version so we'll be seeing a shift in terms of uh…”

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Body weight 2:54:19 0
“very promising a lot of people losing weight um cardiac issues very promising losing weight”

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Nutrition 2:54:53 0
“conversely if we just got sugar consumption down to USDA guidelines by basically you know putting some limits on how much added sugar the food industry can put into any given product like Froot Loops we could reduce weight by 29% and save $3.0 trillion”

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Exercise 2:57:38 0
“what if somebody who's taking uh one of these analoges makes it a point to do resistance training and here you know you mentioned bodybuilders earlier I'm not I'm not suggesting they become bodybuilders but we now know and I think Peter Tia and others would agree that everybody should be doing some form of muscle loss offsetting resistance exercise”

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Nutrition 2:59:51 0
“fructose is was a driver of immune dysfunction if he got off you can tell him from me if he got off the sugar his psoriasis would get better his weight would get better his arthritis would get better and he could have then that jump start”

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Body weight 3:00 0
“if one is fat long enough, it becomes increasingly hard to get to a healthy weight because of the way the neural circuitry is impacted”

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Hormone balance 3:01 0
“leptin as we talked about briefly is the hormone that tells your brain you've had enough”

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Hormone balance 3:02 0
“insulin inhibits leptin signaling and it does it at three separate places in the hypothalamus”

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Nutrition 3:03 0
“get rid of the refined carbohydrate and sugar”

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Nutrition 3:04 0
“glucose activates the basil ganglia... fructose basically stimulates the nucleus, the reward center”

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Substances 3:07:04 0
“the cigarette industry was guilty of applying people with an addictive substance”

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Nutrition 3:08:59 0
“fruit is fine fruit juice is not great”

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Nutrition 3:09:14 0
“brown rice because of the fiber white rice polished you know number one all the vitamin B1 gone and of course a much larger glucose Excursion that glycemic index thing which of course I hate is it's glycemic load that matters and that is a very high glycemic load so brown rice”

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Nutrition 3:10:00 0
“only 10% of the available tomato sauces out on the market don't have added sugar so you have to know which ones”

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Nutrition 3:10:36 0
“the best choice is the highest fiber breads”

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Nutrition 3:11:30 0
“it depends on where the meat came from it depends on whether it was pasture raised depends on whether it's organic or not if the animal was injected with antibiotics stay away from it because those antibiotics are in the meat they're going to basically sterilize your gut and then the bad bacteria are going to take over”

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Nutrition 3:11:58 0
“fermented foods short chain fatty acids all good”

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Nutrition 3:12:58 0
“I don't practice it but I am for it for the right patient turns out who's the right patient the patient with liver fat because the reason it works is because it gives the liver a chance to basically burn off the fat that it's stored”

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Nutrition 3:13:18 0
“soda got it it's definite no and I don't even have to ask about sugary soda because that's uh that that's basically just poison in a can”

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Nutrition 3:13:48 0
“food combinations are great if there's some Fiber associated with it so it comes back to fiber again”

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Nutrition 3:15:00 0
“we can reduce glucose absorption by 36% fructose absorption by 38% sucrose absorption by 40% simple starch absorption by 9% and increase short chain fatty acid production by 60% without an increase in gas”

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Nutrition 3:19:25 0
“get rid of the sugar okay period very clear”

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Exercise 3:19:31 0
“number two go for a walk the exercise piece yeah go for a walk”

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Nutrition 3:20:15 0
“at UCSF we've gotten rid of all sugar beverages we have the healthy beverage initiative so no Coke machines at UC”

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Nutrition 3:20:52 0
“every hospital and really every public venue in America needs to clear out the junk”

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Nutrition 3:22:13 0
“every kid gets a hot meal made from scratch each day”

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“no greater than one teaspoon per serving no greater than four gram per serving of added sugars”

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“thank you for joining me for today's discussion with Dr Robert Lustig about nutrition and how sugar impacts the health of our brain and body”

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## Nutrition Insights from Experts

Experts like Dr. Robert Lustig and Professor Andrew Huberman delve into the complex role of macronutrients, the impact of different types of sugars, and the influence of food industry practices on dietary habits. Understanding the biological processing of carbohydrates, proteins, and fats highlights the variability in how foods impact our health. For instance, fructose is pinpointed for its addictive nature and detrimental effects on liver and kidney health, challenging the simplistic calorie-centric view of diet.

## Caloric Complexity and Metabolic Health

Discussions reveal that not all calories are equal, with the source and type of food significantly affecting metabolic outcomes. Dr. Lustig argues against the conventional view that equates obesity strictly with caloric balance, emphasizing instead the metabolic consequences of specific nutrients. Proteins, though more thermogenically active, illustrate that nutrient absorption and utilization are as crucial as intake. Additionally, the presence of fiber significantly alters caloric absorption, as seen in almonds where fiber encapsulation reduces calorie availability.

## The Role of Sugars in Health

The addictive properties of fructose and its metabolic disruption are recurrent themes. Fructose consumption correlates with hormonal imbalances and poor health outcomes. The differentiation between whole fruits and fruit juices is emphasized due to fiber’s role in mitigating sugar absorption and its beneficial effects on the gut microbiome.

## Fiber’s Impact on Health

The protective role of fiber in diet is repeatedly validated through its effects on calorie processing and gut health. Highlighted through various examples, including the metabolic processing of almonds and the healthier choice of whole fruits over juices, fiber consistently supports reduced calorie absorption and enhanced metabolic health.

## Influence of Food Production and Marketing

The discussion unfolds the significant impact of food commoditization and marketing on public health. Huberman’s critical tone towards the food industry’s practices reflects the urgent need for a broader understanding and public awareness of these influences to foster healthier eating practices.

## Practical Recommendations and Food Choices

From choosing whole over processed foods to understanding the metabolic effects of different fats and proteins, practical advice is interwoven through the conversation. The benefits of unsaturated fats like omega-3s and the dangers of trans fats frame a clear directive for healthier food choices based on scientific understanding of their metabolic effects.

## Concluding Thoughts on Dietary Health

This dialogue encapsulates a shift from traditional dietary guidelines towards a more nuanced understanding of nutrition science. It calls for educational efforts to dismantle outdated models and promote a holistic view that encompasses the metabolic, hormonal, and psychological impacts of our dietary choices.